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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:40:29 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:Lesson 50: I have a newfound respect for active tanks. I recently participated in another round of Thunderdome-style one-on-one matches. Although I only ended up actually fighting one match, that one match was a doozy. Here's a video of it from my opponent's viewpoint.You'll notice that it's a long fight. Fifteen minutes long. No amount of buffer shy of a capital ship would have come close to lasting that long given the levels of DPS being flung about. When you need to go the distance, an active tank is the way to go.
I wonder what a neuting VNI would have done to that Sac. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.10 17:00:38 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:Lesson 50: I have a newfound respect for active tanks. I recently participated in another round of Thunderdome-style one-on-one matches. Although I only ended up actually fighting one match, that one match was a doozy. Here's a video of it from my opponent's viewpoint.You'll notice that it's a long fight. Fifteen minutes long. No amount of buffer shy of a capital ship would have come close to lasting that long given the levels of DPS being flung about. When you need to go the distance, an active tank is the way to go. I wonder what a neuting VNI would have done to that Sac. It would likely have been over in 30 seconds  Then again if it was a heavy missile kiting sac it'd likely have won against said vni BTW Bronson this is a nice thread. Never took the time to notice before. That and its not been all that active in my ship toasting career  
Noragen, I don't know if you've ever flown an MWD fit hull tanked VNI but that monster is unreasonably fast. Full nav skills I think it's around 2800 m/s with heat. Pretty sure it can still fit a full rack of medium neuts too; might have to downsize one of them.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.10 17:07:49 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:You get it, I get it. Like I said it's a risky call. By forcing a drone back periodically he can reduce the incoming damage and make it a bit easier on his cap demands.... but yeah, unless you can actually do at least armor damage to the drone before it's scooped you've basically accomplished nothing. I almost sent a very verbose mail stating my opinion on the matter, then two things happened... I remembered that I was drunk, and that you're no fool. Like I said, it's risky. If it works you win by attrition, if not it's slow death. There's a very good reason why I don't even try to flip Gilas in my Ishkur. 
I was thinking he could have used his augmented drones to harass the gila's drones while applying damage to the gila with missiles; this would 1) force gila pilot to heavily manage his drones and cycle them out over a 20k distance each time one got heavily damaged and 2) badman could keep his augmented drones close where he can instantly pull and redeploy them the moment they get targeted. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.11 00:34:10 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:Lesson 50: I have a newfound respect for active tanks. I recently participated in another round of Thunderdome-style one-on-one matches. Although I only ended up actually fighting one match, that one match was a doozy. Here's a video of it from my opponent's viewpoint.You'll notice that it's a long fight. Fifteen minutes long. No amount of buffer shy of a capital ship would have come close to lasting that long given the levels of DPS being flung about. When you need to go the distance, an active tank is the way to go. I wonder what a neuting VNI would have done to that Sac. It would likely have been over in 30 seconds Then again if it was a heavy missile kiting sac it'd likely have won against said vni BTW Bronson this is a nice thread. Never took the time to notice before. That and its not been all that active in my ship toasting career Noragen, I don't know if you've ever flown an MWD fit hull tanked VNI but that monster is unreasonably fast. Full nav skills I think it's around 2800 m/s with heat. Pretty sure it can still fit a full rack of medium neuts too; might have to downsize one of them. My response was unclear. I believe from the ehp on that sac and the pressure even 3 heated med neuts apply it is screwed if the vni can get on top of it
Yea I don't know what speeds and MWD sacrilege hits but I was saying that a non-armor buffer VNI is fast enough with heat that I would not like to try and kite one with another cruiser, unless you have links and implants.
I saw Bronson's post too and I am now torn as to how I'd place my bets...Sac has capless weapons and stupid high resists but 3-4 med neuts would AT LEAST kill his tackle mod.
I am afraid the Gallente drone cruisers will have another interview with the nerf bat at some point. It is a sad thought.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
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Posted - 2015.09.19 13:04:54 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:I will refer to it as such.
"The Bronson Maneuver?" maybe?
Lol you got Bronson'd.
Unfortunately, my early experiments have proven rather unsuccessful. I had my CEO alt drop a dozen of them along the Amarr/Jita pipe and not a one of them got shot at. Apparently, I was the only guy in hisec inclined to shoot things like this who didn't know that shooting them aggro'd gate guns. Not sure how I feel about that....
Safety set to green or yellow helps avoid such unpleasantries. You can even just flip safety off red for long enough to see if an object is attackable under a partial safety setting. |
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